Guilherme ( 9 years ago )
BT: 1) The birthday girl was delteiinfy struggling a lot less than would be normal; almost likely guessing what was going to happen. She looks like someone from the sports team, so yes, if she did really struggle when she was being brought to the chin-up bars, it was unlikely they could restrain her without hurting her.2) Listen carefully to what she's screaming   aside from the random  stop it , she's more often yelling  who did that?!  and yelling comments about how gross/sick the stuff being thrown at her was, instead of yelling/begging to be let go.3) Kicking her shoe at the camera?4) Her head was not hit; she was pushed back down when they were trying to tie her hands; while it was rough, the blog description made it sound as if it was an equivalent to her being punched across the face or something.5) She wasn't sobbing   note that she was complaining about the stuff going into her eyes. If she was sobbing, the teacher would have delteiinfy complained more about them  bullying  her, instead of the mess.6)  Post-celebration , she was running around the canteen trying to hug her classmates, to get the stuff on them (not recorded on camera)7) The items used, although disgusting, were the usual orientation  goop  stuff   flour, water, milk (except maybe cake)8) Her blog, now taken down, states  Anyway, A Big Thank You to everyone who celebrated my Birthday as well as the good wishes. Well, although it was a DIRTY one but it was sure memorable.  Note that it was posted before the youtube video came out, and before people started the overblown debate on ACJC ragging.While it's all good and fine to put yourself into their shoes and walk around in them, don't do so without knowing all the facts, post and prior to the incident; if she was traumatized and sobbing, it would delteiinfy be more obvious in the video. Strange as it may be, it's a part of JC life which is memorable. Do you get angry at your  friends ? She still seems close to them; although you do know she would delteiinfy be attending their next birthdays. Yes, it's a lot more extreme than what is considered normal, but then again, if it was a guy, how many people would close both eyes, or laugh along? It's certainly not a good example of ACJC's culture, but then again, how many people here are just sitting on their moral high horse, when they probably were involved in some form of ragging or pranks on each other back when they were younger?

Zenni ( 9 years ago )
Hey~  Stop making being cotrisvaneve sound like we are some mountain tortise.  We are all young and are all looking for some fun everytime.  But we should at least have a standard of what is ok and what is not.I agree that MOST of us jumped to the conclusion that the girl was victimized, humiliated or whatever fucks like that.  And yes, we should keep our noses to ourselves   But if some moron wants to  publicize  the incident online, then don't complain for people are poking their nose into the matter.  Some were saying that we have too much time as we're bothering and commenting abt this matter.  If thats the case, FUCK YOU, contradicting bastards.Personally, I find the incident humiliating  Yes yes, I am cotrisvaneve.  But won't want that to happen to my friends just for the sake of fun.  They are my friends, not toys for my amusement.  Some prick mentioned that if we are so uptight about things like this, we must probably have a handful amount of friends.  Well, FUCK YOU TOO..  You're not in our shoes, therefore you do not even have a clue of what kind of friends we have.  Perhaps, you got that idea from some dorky schoolmate of yours, but thats a minority.And to be fair, there are some comments which made fair points stating that its all of fun and some other shit I really can't remember, Sorry.  Which gave me a slightly better understanding of the situation, at the least not anymore one-sided.Hey, I got attacked by my 15 of my classmates for the whole of 5mins and got low-blowed for my birthday.  The reason why i didn't make a fuss of it was the fact that they are my friends and i like them.  But that does not mean I condone that incident.  I went through kiwi and blanket parties, so I know how fun this things can be.  Just remember that there is always a limit.The real reason why everyone is making a big fuss was due to the fact that it took place in a JC, not because its ACJC.  If it happened in some ITE campus, trust me, EVERYONE and i MEAN everyone will be saying  BECAUSE ITS ITE WHAT~  Thats what most Singaporean thinks, so just bear with it for the next 3 weeks and everyone will be distracted by some other cockster's problem.Lastly, tagged as a loser is just plain fun   Hmm, How about having sex with your sister or girl-friends.  I record and upload the hot steamy action and tag her as slut, well that will be fun..  PLEASE FUCKING THINK before you say its all out of fun, i'm just asking you to think!  Thats all.  Just think.P.S  Not everyone has a good command of english, if you want to rebuke someone's comment, please don't say that they are illiterate or an ah-beng, just prove your point.  Anyway, I apologise for my poor command of english.

Antwon ( 10 years ago )
are u crazy? theyre teageners hellooooooo.maybe back then u didnt have many friends seeing as how u come across as a seriously uptight wanker. get bigger underwear if ur balls are being contricted. i mean thats prob why ur acting like such a woman.hey even then.thats an insult to women everywhere. the way u describe the video is as if you're watching a rape scene. i mean seriously tied to a chin-up bar and attacked mercilessly .thats like some bondage shit right there   maybe putting it on youtube is a bit embarrassing but its all in the name of fun.unless that girl becomes devastated with her body being ravaged like a piece of meat at a feeding seesion at the zoo and enters a state of depression where she will lock herself in a dark room everyday repeating under her breath  im not happy im not happy(reference to : There was even a girl who had the cheek to ask the victim if she is “happy or not”!)  then i really dont see a problem with this.and yea ACJC is a christian school.they obviously forgot the most important commandment where thou shall not fuck around with he who is the birthday boy.or in this case girl.people like u make me sick. this is the reason why our censorship board are a bunch of prudes.and for all those people making comments saying how its disgracing ACJC stuff it.honestly.maybe you parents wont allow your child to join the school in fear that your precious baby will one day undergo the same treatment.yea thats really fine with me and probably the rest of the students at ACJC. i get so annoyed with over-concerned parents. like the  shocked parent  saying that  Without a doubt, if my daughter were in ACJC, I will help her get a transfer to find any JC.  yea well can your daughter even get into ACJC?? hahahah you're fucking kidding me. you'd think that with a world recession and various wars across the globe people would care less about a bunch of teenage girls having fun.its embarrassing to see how people just love to concern themselves with thing that have nothing to do with them.and for the record im from ACJC.it concerns me. so please..if u dont know how to have fun dont impart that uptight mindset onto society.it just makes singapore a much more boring place than it already is.for all u know MOE may ban students from celebrating birthdays within the campus.

Znjezdan ( 10 years ago )
girl in question was trazmatiued, couldn't face her classmates, etc.So perhaps, she wouldn't, and shouldn't, one plus month later, be putting up group photos of her and her classmates in her blog, right before the break for the A levels. Perhaps she would go into emotional trauma, and keep writing on her blog that she wants to kill herself, because she felt violated, instead of bitching about the A levels.As it is, she's going about her normal life, still good friends with her classmates, and guess what? They're probably studying together, taking their papers together, and maybe aiming for the the same universities together.What disturbs me is not the video, but the response of all you armchair moralists, who, sickeningly, blow such a case out of proportion. Want to know the truth? She's probably more trazmatiued over all the damn hype surrounding her ragging, then the actual incident itself.So yes. Go on. Debate about it. Say she's wrong to be friends with her classmates. But it does sicken me, that the majority of the people here, all you armchair moralists, attempting to impose your own perverted sense of morality upon others. Perhaps we're wrong in even debating this matter, blowing it out of proportion. In fact, I'm sickened that I'm here in the first place, yet it's the lesser of two evils, that I'm not standing up for ragging, but more for you people to understand the context of which it is in.Should ragging be stopped? Perhaps. Or perhaps not. As long as there is no bodily harm (like the  taupok ), or excessive emotional trauma, there is no reason to make a supposed law or legislation against it. Yes, it challenges societal norms, but isn't that what society's progression is about? I'd give an example: If you talk about fashion, what people dress to the beach these days, is what people would have called indecent in the olden times. Heck. The t-shirts we wear used to be considered underwear in those times. Yes, maybe there's no noticeable benefit in ragging   but insofar, it is a rare case where people have fallen out with their close friends over birthday ragging incidents. If you do know of any particular case, please, do share. And perhaps, in the future, the more outspoken, change driving people would be these ACJC kids, instead of the cookie cutter, low-profile, bookish, grade A student. Because sometimes, change doesn't come from conforming to societal norms. Have a good day.

Theresa ( 10 years ago )
BT: 1) The birthday girl was delinitefy struggling a lot less than would be normal; almost likely guessing what was going to happen. She looks like someone from the sports team, so yes, if she did really struggle when she was being brought to the chin-up bars, it was unlikely they could restrain her without hurting her.2) Listen carefully to what she's screaming   aside from the random  stop it , she's more often yelling  who did that?!  and yelling comments about how gross/sick the stuff being thrown at her was, instead of yelling/begging to be let go.3) Kicking her shoe at the camera?4) Her head was not hit; she was pushed back down when they were trying to tie her hands; while it was rough, the blog description made it sound as if it was an equivalent to her being punched across the face or something.5) She wasn't sobbing   note that she was complaining about the stuff going into her eyes. If she was sobbing, the teacher would have delinitefy complained more about them  bullying  her, instead of the mess.6)  Post-celebration , she was running around the canteen trying to hug her classmates, to get the stuff on them (not recorded on camera)7) The items used, although disgusting, were the usual orientation  goop  stuff   flour, water, milk (except maybe cake)8) Her blog, now taken down, states  Anyway, A Big Thank You to everyone who celebrated my Birthday as well as the good wishes. Well, although it was a DIRTY one but it was sure memorable.  Note that it was posted before the youtube video came out, and before people started the overblown debate on ACJC ragging.While it's all good and fine to put yourself into their shoes and walk around in them, don't do so without knowing all the facts, post and prior to the incident; if she was traumatized and sobbing, it would delinitefy be more obvious in the video. Strange as it may be, it's a part of JC life which is memorable. Do you get angry at your  friends ? She still seems close to them; although you do know she would delinitefy be attending their next birthdays. Yes, it's a lot more extreme than what is considered normal, but then again, if it was a guy, how many people would close both eyes, or laugh along? It's certainly not a good example of ACJC's culture, but then again, how many people here are just sitting on their moral high horse, when they probably were involved in some form of ragging or pranks on each other back when they were younger?

Sofi ( 10 years ago )
Hey~  Stop making being caeonrvstive sound like we are some mountain tortise.  We are all young and are all looking for some fun everytime.  But we should at least have a standard of what is ok and what is not.I agree that MOST of us jumped to the conclusion that the girl was victimized, humiliated or whatever fucks like that.  And yes, we should keep our noses to ourselves   But if some moron wants to  publicize  the incident online, then don't complain for people are poking their nose into the matter.  Some were saying that we have too much time as we're bothering and commenting abt this matter.  If thats the case, FUCK YOU, contradicting bastards.Personally, I find the incident humiliating  Yes yes, I am caeonrvstive.  But won't want that to happen to my friends just for the sake of fun.  They are my friends, not toys for my amusement.  Some prick mentioned that if we are so uptight about things like this, we must probably have a handful amount of friends.  Well, FUCK YOU TOO..  You're not in our shoes, therefore you do not even have a clue of what kind of friends we have.  Perhaps, you got that idea from some dorky schoolmate of yours, but thats a minority.And to be fair, there are some comments which made fair points stating that its all of fun and some other shit I really can't remember, Sorry.  Which gave me a slightly better understanding of the situation, at the least not anymore one-sided.Hey, I got attacked by my 15 of my classmates for the whole of 5mins and got low-blowed for my birthday.  The reason why i didn't make a fuss of it was the fact that they are my friends and i like them.  But that does not mean I condone that incident.  I went through kiwi and blanket parties, so I know how fun this things can be.  Just remember that there is always a limit.The real reason why everyone is making a big fuss was due to the fact that it took place in a JC, not because its ACJC.  If it happened in some ITE campus, trust me, EVERYONE and i MEAN everyone will be saying  BECAUSE ITS ITE WHAT~  Thats what most Singaporean thinks, so just bear with it for the next 3 weeks and everyone will be distracted by some other cockster's problem.Lastly, tagged as a loser is just plain fun   Hmm, How about having sex with your sister or girl-friends.  I record and upload the hot steamy action and tag her as slut, well that will be fun..  PLEASE FUCKING THINK before you say its all out of fun, i'm just asking you to think!  Thats all.  Just think.P.S  Not everyone has a good command of english, if you want to rebuke someone's comment, please don't say that they are illiterate or an ah-beng, just prove your point.  Anyway, I apologise for my poor command of english.

Inge ( 10 years ago )
The time is correct. If you're not sieneg it then you're likely outside of BBT (PT) and would need to adjust your time search accordingly. That's a new tech issue Real is having with Flashback this season.So for me, being in the ET, I would need to add 3 hours to the actual time it happened in the house. Instead of searching for 8:21AM BBT I would use 11:21AM as my Flashback time.Hopefully Real will have that issue fixed soon.

Isaias ( 10 years ago )
<3 it for a i don't know 8th grader with an away scocer game the next day. like not to be mean but my friend Bailie (girl) wore that to school because she had to dress up for an away scocer game .it would work for me and/or my friends but not her! sorry Alexandra   <3<3<3 Marisole

Kumuyi ( 10 years ago )
.[You know? Who are you to campaign of her belhaf? What is enjoyable to you?  Brithdays must be loads of material goods is it? Life must be smooth sailing?](One ragging–apocalyse. As bad as those fortune tellers)Oh, so you actually want the apocalypse? Can’t you spell?{Oh so you pick on my spelling. It's you who tries to link this to the end of the world](No one has written rules for birthday parties/celebrations. it’s you people who called it torture. What is torture? Even school detention is torture)Did I say it was torture? You viewed it as torture and hence used that as an adjective. I just didn’t approve of the treatment, and am entitled to it.And for heaven sakes   school detention   torture? You must be kidding.[You and Alvin blow it up to be such criminal act.](What do you want? Thousands of bullying cases in Singapore and world wide? Every principal to resign with each bullying case?)Is that what you feel they should do?[You can't comprehend anything]What I said was that I hope she takes some action, particularly on disgracing the school’s name. What is disgrace? It’s when many other people don’t approve of you.[You hope. You flamed the issue. She has responded.](The video is not the whole story. Just like that ST interview which framed an NTU girl as spoilt rich brat. The problem also lies with the tell-talers who posted in on the great tell tale site called STOMP)I didn’t pay attention to that case. Though the video is not the whole story, I am appalled by what I had seen. I wouldn’t like to know more, though. The girl may be happy and all that her friends threw such a ‘great’ thing for her, but I think she’d be even happier if they threw a party of the norm. Don’t you think so? Would you be happier if they tied you up and mucked you in the face? I wouldn’t know; in my personal view, that’ll be miserable. Perhaps your tastes are different. [ATTN] It is not the point that it didn’t cause harm or trauma. It is the point where people has grown insensitive to others feelings.She might not have said it, but that didn’t mean she might not have felt it. Sincerely,Luc.

James ( 10 years ago )
I saw the videos on Stomp. And accirdong to  Witness' above, the group actually came back and carried on hurling things at her. It was a teacher who untied her. Subsequently the girl ran around the canteen trying to hug her classmates after the entire episode which had left her in tears.This is pathetic. Do you really think the girl was hugging her classmates out of jubilation after having been put through that? Sounds like she felt totally isolated and humiliated and needed to be let back into the group. It is clear to me they picked on someone who seems weaker. Anyone with any sense or dignity would simply stomp off. Honestly, if this occurence had not been so pathetic, the person who had reported to ST would not have done so. The rest of Singapore would not have needed to know, if a fellow student had not felt utter disgust and subsequently motivated to inform the media. ACJC could have just carried on and waste confectionery on every student's birthday. Forget giving cards/flowers and do a stationery shop run.To uphold the so-called Spirit of ACJC Fun and silence the damners out there, this is my suggestion:1. Gather the perpetrators in front of the morning assembly2. Tie them up with ropes decorated with ACJC colours while the assembly cheers them on3. Forget about putting shorts on them or trying to protect modesty, lets be creative and put the shorts over each of their faces4. Drag them to the middle of the college field5. Have the entire school throw things at them, roaring and cheering.6. Get your entire AV crew to film the event.7. Run an Essay/Photography/Visual Arts Competition on the entire event.Being lynched in a group is less humiliating than singularly taking it so we compensate that by increasing the size of the crowd and the publicity.Will this ever take place? Of course not. But I do hope that the foreign press gets hold of this if that is what it takes for MOE and ACJC to take action and appease an appalled public. Even our JC bullies possess no creativity or lateral thinking.Or we could just expel those students,  for fun'.The reason why there is such a public outcry is because people want an answer from ACJC. Not some rambling entries from the rotten bullies in its student cohort which makes for more appalling read.