Sabrina ( 10 years ago )
it better oveuelsrs, though not for lack of trying!  We're as perplexed as you about why any naturists should consider this fuss to have anything to do with the practice of nudism/naturism.  We have seen little evidence of nudists in the mix other than a few outsiders visiting there.We've received a lot of flak over this from both gay advocates and nudists who either equate  criticism of the actions of a few as an indictment of an entire social group, or nudity with nudism, or both.   AANR has even roused from slumber to indicate support to the Castro naked people rather than to emphatically distance the nudist community from this irresponsible behavior which can only hurt our cause.As you say, this sets a precedence which can be called up the next time someone advocates for a little more body freedom, and can be used as an example of what can be expected if folks are allowed to sunbathe topless in their own yards!Yours and ours is a mainstream position but unfortunately the mainstream doesn't participate a lot in public online discussions, so mostly the noisy minority is heard.  They also tend to be the ones with their own agenda to promote, an agenda often conflicting with nudism as practiced by most.So we'll keep seeing  nudist' and  naturist' attached to everything that happens involving a nude person, and no one of authority will stand up and say, enough!   They too have their agendas, it would seem.

Angelika ( 10 years ago )
What a waste. One of the few cities in the US that pcubilly allow our choice of clothing, or rather lack of, is now in real danger of losing that freedom just because a group decided to stroke up and slip on cock rings.  They are ruining something that the rest of us only dream about. As stated before this is not nudist/naturist behavior. If this were to happen at the places where we go, these folks would be promptly shown the gate. Some say the rings are jewelry. I'm having a tough time buying that one!!! Somehow I doubt I can go to the local jewelry store and buy a diamond set cock ring!!! In any case it is really sad that a few folks have to mess up such a good thing.

Tadas ( 10 years ago )
Thank you Steve and Angie.  I was beginning to think I was the only one in our contimumy with this opinion.  I saw opinions supporting the protests against the ban and calls to action (complete with pictures of men wearing cock rings) but have not seen much on the fact that aligning ourselves with this behavior damages our cause and reputation. I see the hand of the media in this push to associate  Nudists  with this behavior.  I guess it sells their articles and associated advertising.  It would seem that if Supervisor Wiener had approached a group of [real] Nudists in the contimumy and asked for help curbing this trend toward indecency he would have found that he had a true force behind him.  Just like the force that maintains and monitors the behavior at many nude beaches.

Mila ( 10 years ago )
it better oeruelvss, though not for lack of trying!  We're as perplexed as you about why any naturists should consider this fuss to have anything to do with the practice of nudism/naturism.  We have seen little evidence of nudists in the mix other than a few outsiders visiting there.We've received a lot of flak over this from both gay advocates and nudists who either equate  criticism of the actions of a few as an indictment of an entire social group, or nudity with nudism, or both.   AANR has even roused from slumber to indicate support to the Castro naked people rather than to emphatically distance the nudist community from this irresponsible behavior which can only hurt our cause.As you say, this sets a precedence which can be called up the next time someone advocates for a little more body freedom, and can be used as an example of what can be expected if folks are allowed to sunbathe topless in their own yards!Yours and ours is a mainstream position but unfortunately the mainstream doesn't participate a lot in public online discussions, so mostly the noisy minority is heard.  They also tend to be the ones with their own agenda to promote, an agenda often conflicting with nudism as practiced by most.So we'll keep seeing  nudist' and  naturist' attached to everything that happens involving a nude person, and no one of authority will stand up and say, enough!   They too have their agendas, it would seem.

Ankur ( 10 years ago )
My need/reason for having my cell phone with me is realetd to my job.  I work for a manufacturing company that runs 24/7 in multiple sites across the country. I routinely have to be on call and must always be available in case of software issues that can cost millions of dollars if not corrected quickly.  All I want to be able to do is CARRY my cell phone with me, in a enclosed way (zipper pocket of my towel, a bag on a string around my neck). I don't want to get it OUT and USE IT, but I must be able to look to see if a text or phone call from work has come in.I respect the desire of my fellow nudists/naturists to not be concerned about pictures or perhaps worse.. having someone sitting by them while they are relaxing in the warm sun who is constantly talking, texting, gabbing, with someone one the phone.  Perhaps even just across the pool!  UGH  But what is the harm in carrying my phone, in a pouch? Then if a text or call comes in, removing myself to a designated  use' area to make/receive calls and respond to texts.I agree with Melissa however, the true problem is BEHAVIOR not technology.

Ankur ( 10 years ago )
My need/reason for having my cell phone with me is realetd to my job.  I work for a manufacturing company that runs 24/7 in multiple sites across the country. I routinely have to be on call and must always be available in case of software issues that can cost millions of dollars if not corrected quickly.  All I want to be able to do is CARRY my cell phone with me, in a enclosed way (zipper pocket of my towel, a bag on a string around my neck). I don't want to get it OUT and USE IT, but I must be able to look to see if a text or phone call from work has come in.I respect the desire of my fellow nudists/naturists to not be concerned about pictures or perhaps worse.. having someone sitting by them while they are relaxing in the warm sun who is constantly talking, texting, gabbing, with someone one the phone.  Perhaps even just across the pool!  UGH  But what is the harm in carrying my phone, in a pouch? Then if a text or call comes in, removing myself to a designated  use' area to make/receive calls and respond to texts.I agree with Melissa however, the true problem is BEHAVIOR not technology.

Ankur ( 10 years ago )
My need/reason for having my cell phone with me is realetd to my job.  I work for a manufacturing company that runs 24/7 in multiple sites across the country. I routinely have to be on call and must always be available in case of software issues that can cost millions of dollars if not corrected quickly.  All I want to be able to do is CARRY my cell phone with me, in a enclosed way (zipper pocket of my towel, a bag on a string around my neck). I don't want to get it OUT and USE IT, but I must be able to look to see if a text or phone call from work has come in.I respect the desire of my fellow nudists/naturists to not be concerned about pictures or perhaps worse.. having someone sitting by them while they are relaxing in the warm sun who is constantly talking, texting, gabbing, with someone one the phone.  Perhaps even just across the pool!  UGH  But what is the harm in carrying my phone, in a pouch? Then if a text or call comes in, removing myself to a designated  use' area to make/receive calls and respond to texts.I agree with Melissa however, the true problem is BEHAVIOR not technology.

danaos commun club. ( 13 years ago )
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